Team room news tv podcast books shop crate club academy gear. Who would win a 1989 dogfight between a tomcat and an eagle. As of 8 january 2014, 123 usaf f15 aircraft had been destroyed in mishaps, with 52. According to the article, an f35a and a twobag block 40 f16d took off on jan 14, 2015 to engage in basic fighter maneuver setups to test the. You know its so convoluted and messy now compared to what it could have been. F22 from 2010 to 2012 i worked for the us government still do in korea. The only thing the eagle can do that the f16 cant do is it can carry more. Air force while preserving the air superiority and homeland defense missions. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Features the eagles air superiority is achieved through a mixture of unprecedented maneuverability and acceleration, range, weapons and avionics. Usafs deadliest f16 pilot talks f15 retirement, syria, and pilot.
The f15 strike eagle versus the fa18 super hornet reddit. The world affairs board is the premier forums for the discussion of the pressing geopolitical issues of our time. Who would win a dogfight between an f15 and an f16. Dec 28, 2006 the f15 eagle is the number one air superiority fighter in the us arsenal. The f15 eagle is an allweather, extremely maneuverable, tactical fighter designed to permit the air force to gain and maintain air supremacy over the battlefield. F15 vs f16 fighting falcon difference and comparison diffen. F4 vs lightning vs f15 vs f14 vs f16 etc pprune forums.
The f15 eagle is a twinengine, allweather tactical fighter used by the u. Sep 22, 2017 so to the question to which was the better fighter, winebrenner answers that depends on the mission, on the roe, on the threat. F16 pilots explain how the viper dogfights and wins against. You can follow any responses to this entry through the rss 2.
Hes also a member of the breaking defense board of contributors. But if the encounter is shorter ranged and within migs rader coverage mig will win for sure. Find out who comes out on top in this classic f15 vs. Although they are two different airframes, the f15 and the f18 have similar avionics, as. F14 vs f15 vs f16 aircraft of world war ii ww2aircraft. How would f15, f16 and fa18 fighter jets fare one versus the other in. Unfortuneltly untill now, there was always us aircrafts won du to several reasons. The f15 can trace its origins to the early vietnam war, when the u. But if f15 is under migs radar over mig will win for sure.
This is a list of losses involving the f15 including the f15 eagle, f15e strike eagle, mitsubishi f15j and other f15 variants. A friend of mine, a pilot in the raf was recently based in the us. Upon is return he informed me that alot of usaf pilots feel that the f16 is no match for the eurofighter but the f15 is, any thoughts. The pilots of the two j22s spotted the f16s above them and after their attack, they left the area in lowlevel flight towards croatia, where the u. The f14 tomcat is a now retired supersonic, twinengine, twoseat fighter aircraft, developed for use by the united states navy. Well lets see if you agree with our resident expert, former f16 pilot, and. The f15 eagle is the number one air superiority fighter in the us arsenal. However its the precursor to the dance that very often. The eagle was built from the ground up to be an air superiority fighter not a pound for air to ground the f16 is a multirole aircraft. Is the f22 really superior to all other fighter aircraft posted by picard578 on december 1, 2012 usaf often touts f22 as being the best fighter aircraft in the world.
Jan 31, 2019 rick sanchez presents an incredible video of an su27 russian fighter jet confronting an f15 in midair at almost supersonic speed and discusses what the encounter illustrates about todays. If the f15 with its aesa with possible ew attack modes detects the f16 first, then it has the advantage. To sum up, i wonder if the scan code mapping that vmware chose for fusion is a bit unfortunate for f15 and f16. The f15 eagle, arguably the most successful fighter jet of the modern age, could be in for an early retirement with the us air force thanks to skyrocketing upgrade and refurbishment costs. The f16 is a fine plane, but its an older design, and unless it has the more sophisticated longrange enemy detection and targeting equipment and the accompanying missiles to knock their adversary out of the sky, theyre going to be at the receiving end of whatever the far superior f18 dishes out to them.
Deptula flew the f15 and twice led joint task forces, in iraq and in afghanistan. Fa18e super hornet vs general dynamics f16 fighting falcon. In the 1980s, the f14 tomcat and f15 eagle were contenders for the title of biggest airtoair badass. F16 dogfight posted on august 31, 2015 by kevin hobster the united states air forces operation red flag is a simulated air war designed to train fighter pilots for combat. The newerupgraded mig29s can beat f15c at both long ranges and short ranges the only american plane which can beat them is f22. This would mean that in a fight where two skilled pilots compete, the russian would win probably in a 7 to 3 ratio. Of all aircraft lost, none have been lost in airtoair combat.
Of course, in that comparison, theres also the navy versus air force. But the question was who would win in a dogfight, so i put my monney on the falcon, regardless of radarconfig. December 10, 2012 dario leone military aviation 39 the lockheed martin f16 fighting falcon is the western worlds most prolific. The mcdonnell douglas f15 eagle is an american twinengine, allweather tactical fighter. They each performed the role for which they were designed very well. Mar 14, 2005 the f15 eagle is an allweather, extremely maneuverable, tactical fighter designed to permit the air force to gain and maintain air supremacy over the battlefield. An old article, but still interesting to read i guess. Unmasking the f15x, boeings f15cd eagle replacement fighter boeing and the usaf have been in talks for a year and a half about replacing the aging f15cd with a brand new advanced. Although i have four times as many hours in the f16 as i do in the fa18.
Rick sanchez presents an incredible video of an su27 russian fighter jet confronting an f15 in midair at almost supersonic speed and discusses what the encounter illustrates about todays. This assumes that there are no f15 and f16 in the windows world, and vmware is free in its choice. F15 eagle vs f16 viper, which wins the day in an airtoair engagement. Its performance and payload capabilities match its handling to far exceed the f16 and even the f18 hornet. In this series, a pilot who flew both shares the differences in flying both planes as well as the navy vs air force aspects. While it has a bit of a size advantage, the f15c has.
Jul 01, 2015 first, lets talk about what really happened. The airforces monthly book of the f16 fighting falcon. The f15 is an affordable, lowrisk solution that maintains capacity and adds capability to the u. Fred spanky clifton is one of the most experienced aggressor pilots ever, having flown the f15, f5, f16 and the notorious mig29. You can assign them to in system preference keyboard keyboard shortcutsor something like that, currently away from my mac or if you want to be able to assign them to change tracks in. F16 fighting falcon books books about the greatest jet fighter on earth. Since its introduction in 1978, over 4,450 f16 fighting falcons have been built, making it one of the most successful military aircraft of all time. With his upcoming book about charles lindberghs historic. F4 vs lightning vs f15 vs f14 vs f16 etc page 2 pprune forums.
Firearm discussion and resources from ar15, ak47, handguns and more. Pentagon say f35 fighter jet lost against f16 because it had. Jul 03, 2015 pentagon say reason most expensive fighter jet ever the f35 lost a dogfight with an f16 from 40 years ago was because it did not have a special coat of stealth paint. Although they are two different airframes, the f15 and the f18. Utwory solowe na glos dzieciecy by svetlana alexievich, sonka by ignacy karpowicz, the torch in my ear by elias. In a hearing before the house armed services committee, air force and air national guard brass informed the pa. The maneuvers of the f15 are different than those of the f16, and by flying with it, we prepare for a future dogfight. Home military aviation f15 eagle vs cf18 hornet vs f16 fighting falcon. In a hearing before the house armed services committee, air force and air. Who would win a 1989 dogfight between a tomcat and an. In this webonly original short, we imagine what would happen if a 1,000foottall alien tripod faced off with an f15 fighter jet. Lockheed martin unveils latest version of f16 fighting falcon. Heres how the f16 falcon could replace the f15 eagle.
Owner of this site is not responsible for potential mistakes or lacks of data. Today, when we talk about a dominant plane in airtoair combat, the conversation starts and ends with the f22 raptor. F4 vs lightning vs f15 vs f14 vs f16 etc just been peeking at the lightning thread and others, one in particular about a single f14 vs f15 encounter some time years ago. So to the question to which was the better fighter, winebrenner answers that depends on the mission, on the roe, on the threat.
Who would win a wvr dogfight between an f16 and an f15. F15 vs f16 fighting falcon difference and comparison. The best way to win is with a beyond visual range kill, waaaay before a dogfight. Pentagon say reason most expensive fighter jet ever the f35 lost a dogfight with an f16 from 40 years ago was because it did not have a special coat of stealth paint. The general dynamics f16 fighting falcon is a singleengine supersonic multirole fighter.
Eagle vs viper, f15 eagle, f15 vs f16, f16 fighting falcon, f16 viper, vs. Upon is return he informed me that alot of usaf pilots feel that the f16 is no. Dynamics f16 fighting falcon and the middle weight navy mcdonnell douglas fa18 hornet. Find all the books, read about the author, and more.
Dynamics f16 fighting falcon and the middleweight navy mcdonnell douglas fa18 hornet. F16 faceoff was also a battle of philosophies ironically, the older plane was a response to the same assumptions. May 10, 2017 the f15 eagle, arguably the most successful fighter jet of the modern age, could be in for an early retirement with the us air force thanks to skyrocketing upgrade and refurbishment costs. Boyds work called for a small, lightweight aircraft that could maneuver with the minimum. Oct 22, 2008 they each performed the role for which they were designed very well. What we learned on paper was that the f15 was quite superior to our f14as in a majority of areas. Unmasking the f15x, boeings f15cd eagle replacement fighter boeing and the usaf have been in talks for a year and a half about replacing the. Configuration of the twinengine aircraft is characterized. General dynamics f16 fighting falcon operational history.
And if the f14 didnt possess the close range dogfighting agility of the f15, the tomcat ability to launch lb air to air missiles with 5 lb warheads was impressive. The f16 fighting falcon should still be feared duration. F15 most dominating f14 most innovative f16 most cost effective the f14 was a fantastic plane but to attain the mantle of best i believe cost, maintenance and longevity must be considered. Close in dogfight f15 vs f14 vs f16 vs f18 page 1 ar15. So you think you know the answer on who wins between the f16v and the j 39e. F4 vs lightning vs f15 vs f14 vs f16 etc just been peeking at the lightning thread and others, one in particular about a single f14 vs f15 encounter some time years ago thus leading to lots of debate. A navy test pilots perspective as a navy test pilot on an air force exchange tour, i have the best job in the world. The f15 is a twinengine fighter jet capable of extremely high speeds and altitudes, while the f16 is a less powerful but more maneuverable singleengine fighter aircraft. Who would win in a hypothetical dogfight between a f15 eagle and. In this section youll find books about some other fine military aircraft. Robert cricket renner for their book viper force 56 fighter wingto fly and fight the f16.
How does the f16 perform against its adversaries in dogfight. Seeing as how the f15 strike eagle has never actually been downed in airtoair combat, the f15 is faster, has a better rate of climb, a better max altitude, and far more airtoair armaments on the account of it being made primarily for airtoair combat. Military aviation books theres more than the f16 alone of course. Su model tops the training exercise pitted against f16 f15 f35 even f22. The f15 is considered one of the most successful and formidable fighter aircraft ever built, with over 100 aerial dogfight victories and zero dogfighting losses.
Dec 01, 2012 is the f22 really superior to all other fighter aircraft posted by picard578 on december 1, 2012 usaf often touts f22 as being the best fighter aircraft in the world. September 18, 2014 dario leone military aviation 3. The worlds most successful jet fighter general aviation davies, steve, dildy, doug on. F14 and f15 should adjust the brightness of your display. The mcdonnell douglas f15 eagle emerged from the complex and extensive set of requirements established by the usaf. The russian su27 flanker could easily compete with the. With little advance notice, every aircrew in our squadron hit the books to learn about the f15 capabilities, its strengths and weaknesses, and also air force pilots tactics and tendencies. Boeings f15 silent eagle had been in the box seat to win the 8. I supervised a group of quality assurance specialists that administered the contract for the depot level maintenance for usaf and usmc pto aircraft.
As mentioned, this training is a part of the pilots conversion stage, in which they become familiar with their new fighter jets. Is the f22 really superior to all other fighter aircraft. Military aviation f4 vs lightning vs f15 vs f14 vs f16 etc on the question of shar v mirage in the falklands, the arg aircraft had little or no. The first f15a flight was made on 27 july 1972, culminating one of the most successful aircraft development and procurement programs in air force history. The f15 offers the worlds most advanced technologies and delivers more payload to the fight, more speed to target and more range than any fighter in the world. He has written a book for general aviation pilots called engine out survival.
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